Friday, August 20, 2010 Bareskrim Police Headquarters was so crowded with Muslims who want to visit Ustadz Abu Bakar Ba’asyir. The swift rain which flushed Jakarta that afternoon did not dampen enthusiasm the visitors to keep coming, there are members of the Jamaah Ansharut Tauhid (JAT) original from Banten even from Malang, East Java. Among JAT leaders who attended visiting was Ustadz Achwan from Malang, East Java, he was Amir Jamaah Ansharut Tauhid which replaces Ustadz Abu Bakar Ba’asyir’s position for a while. Also present the Chairman of GARIS, H. Encep Hernawan and did not miss Vice Amir Indonesian Mujahidin Council (MMI), Ustadz Abu Jibriel.
The visitors at Police Headquarters Criminal Investigation is restricted as much as 10 peoples take turns to enter and are given time approximately 15 minutes to meet Ustadz Abu Bakar Ba’asyir. After a long waiting queues, the voa-islam.com team finally managed to meet Ustadz Abu, on the last turn together with Ustadz Abu Jibril. That’s the voa-islam.com opportunity to talk and break the fast with Ustadz Abu Bakar Ba’asyir.
Such a strict supervision apply to the visitors. From the start through the metal detector until checking luggage in the bag. Also prohibit by police officers to carry mobile phones, cameras and any recording equipment into the detention room.
In one room there are about 12 benches for the visitors, while Ustadz Abu sitting in front facing the visitors. Wearing ghamis (muslim clothes for men) and a white skullcap, Ustadz Abu seem friendly and familiar talk with the guests who visited him. These are excerpts talks voa-islam.com Ustadz Abu before breaking the fast:
How is conditions in the prison Ustadz?
Alhamdulillah, conditions are adequate, mean wide enough, there was the bathroom. But because the room was a bit damp, then given AC. But then i can not stand if using AC so I told them to reduce the AC. They promised to find a room where the temperature is not humid.
From the investigation i have done actually, but if according to thaghut rules i was under arrest until December.
How Ustadz fill the days in prison?
In this prison, only for worship. I was given the opportunity by Allah worship, read Quran, remembrance Allah, and prayer. So there’s no job to do.
How is the treatment here?
Alhamdulillah for me there was no harsh treatment. Yesterday when in investigation I don’t want to be examined unless Muslim Defense Team (TPM) was there, was eventually TPM invited to come. So each time there’s examination there must be TPM. It should be like that, right? Because the problem is dare or not.
How chronological you been arrest, Ustadz?
At that time I used to attend a weekly study. I took my wife and family in West Java, which is in Bandung later in Tasikmalaya. Finished the event in Tasikmalaya i went home. Well, when time to go home that’s lot of police in Banjar, then the car i was riding herded into the police station. After the car enter, my entourage got yelled by them, “Come out, come out!”
There, i said nothing, finally driver have been told to open the door but refused, then broke the glass then opened. After opened i get ou, after I get out there’s a soldier, perhaps Christians who yell at me. So I say “You are cursed! Want to shoot me? Just shoot! Cad ! Ye cursed! You have so that what are you so arrogant? You cad! ”
Finally commander arbitrate, “it already ustadz, already!” Then he told, “If with Ustadz (religious teacher i.e cleric) should not be rude, everything should be soft.”
Eh, my driver who was dragged and then told to facedown, that i want to stop but could not because i was arrested. Though not understand anything he was just a driver, he just took me as a driver of two people who turn to each other. Then he was arrested just a few days then can go home.
Alhamdulillah, from there and then escorted to the airport continues to Jakarta the treatments go well and i was good also.
What’s the problem, so then Ustadz often detained by police in recent ruling regime?
Indeed my problem is America strategy. America wanted me do not exist in the community because my da’wah was considered detrimental to American strategy, because I stretch the meaning of Tauhid and sense of faith. That’s what they really don’t like. Then America tried how i was cut off from society.
The first, ask sent first (extradited to America, pen.) period of time in government of Megawati, but I was helped by Allah because Megawati dare refuse, so it failed.
Secondly, when i want to get out from Salemba prison’s arrested again. Well, it was accused of being involved with (bombing incident, pen.) JW mariot, even though I do not understand anything, well it also failed.
Thirdly, Bali bombing convicts were forced to sign the news event inspection (BAP) that was me who ordered with the recognition that with three people being tortured. But I am protected by Allah, they turned away (revoke testimony, author.) ultimately fail as well.
Well this is the fourth, i was accused of governing, planning and assist training in Aceh. Yesterday i saw taghout articles which been alleged, many of the articles, which the article was threat of the death penalty.
Means that America wanted Ustadz to death?
Yes, indeed America didn’t want me to be in the middle of society, to be killed, or to how i was not in public. That’s American strategy was using the police. So I said to Densus 88, “You are American right handed, i don’t want you to check, the proof will be in court i explained that you are American right handed!”
What about the alleged involvement in the incidents in Aceh, Ustadz?
Later in court I would dismantle all. We have our own strategy in jihad. Our Jihad in Jamaah Ansharut Tauhid (JAT) it just only for amar ma’ruf nahi munkar. Our I’dad to prepare the physical strength, we did not mention the weapons because we could not afford. Now there are groups in Aceh entered by police named Sofyan Tsauri.
Are the activities they are doing correctly according to syar’I law?
That’s right, for carrying out Allah’s command:
“And prepare against them whatever force you could withstand, and of horses tethered to the war (which is the preparation that) you terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemies and others beside them whom you do not know; but whom Allah knows. Whatever ye shall spend in the way of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be treated (injured)” (QS Al-Anfal 60).
They have been i’dad, in review of shari’ah is true, regardless of whether we agree or not with the way, that’s another issue. That’s true in terms of Shari’ah but from terms of thaghut is wrong because disposable weapon.
We realize that, so if we I’dad running Allah commands could not with weapons but with just physical, it’s the difference. But we also can not blame them, cause there proof in syar’i. If i can not blame, because it means i reject the clause.
In various media, the international mujahideen have released the arrest Ustadz Abu Bakar Baasyir, how Ustadz responses?
Alhamdulillah, jazakumullah khairan, thank you. We ask them to also pray that we can wait patiently as the followers of the Prophet.
According to Al-Qur’an Ali Imran verse 146, patience of followers of the Prophet’s are there three kinds. When the Prophet jihad with their followers, when exposed accidents in Allah’s way, because people who fight for Islam is shall affected to disaster, no one fought for Islam are safe.
First, “fama wahanu ashobahum fi sabilillah.” Do not get discouraged because of accident, his heart remained large not small then become coward because disaster hit.
Second, “wa ma dho’ufu.” Not a weak spirit, because there are accidents then cooling down. Keep the Spirit!
Third, “wamas takanu.” Never give up, it’s called the patience of fighters. Wallahu yuhibbus shabirin (and Allah loves those who are patient).
I ask prayer of the mujahideen, so i can practice patience of the Prophet followers: do not get discouraged, do not weak and never give up. Jazakumullah khairan. [silum /widi]
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